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  • International Space Station undergoes crew handover, change of command

    International Space Station undergoes crew handover, change of command

    Expedition 73 aboard the International Space Station (ISS) continues to perform its scheduled science and maintenance activities on humanity’s premier orbiting outpost, now more than a quarter-century old. The Station has a new commander and a new set of crew members on the U.S. side of the complex, as four astronauts departed this week to conclude their tour of duty on board ISS.

    The Crew-11 mission successfully launched on Friday, Aug. 1, at 11:43 AM EDT (15:43 UTC) and docked just over 14 hours later on Saturday, Aug. 2, at 06:26 UTC. Crew Dragon Endeavour set a new record for the shortest time from launch to docking; previous Crew Dragon missions to ISS typically took around 19 hours to dock with the Station after launch.

    After Endeavour docked to the zenith port on the Station’s Harmony node module, the ISS temporarily hosted 11 crew members. Crew-11’s astronauts settled into life aboard the orbiting outpost while also being assisted by Crew-10’s members, who were “handing the baton” to Crew-11’s Zena Cardman, Michael Fincke, Kimiya Yui, and Oleg Platonov.

    Sergey Ryzhikov (L) and Takuya Onishi (R) shaking hands during the ISS change of command ceremony. (Credit: NASA)

    During the joint operations period, Station commander Takuya Onishi handed off his command responsibility to Roscosmos’ Sergey Ryzhikov. Ryzhikov will command ISS and the Expedition 73 crew until December, when he and his Soyuz MS-27 crewmates leave the Station and return to Earth, while Onishi returns to Earth after becoming the third Japanese to command ISS.

    Crew-10’s Anne McClain, Nichole Ayers, Takuya Onishi, and Kirill Peskov boarded Crew Dragon Endurance and undocked from the Station on Friday, Aug. 8 at 22:15 UTC before splashing down off the southern California coast on Saturday, Aug. 9 at 8:33 AM PDT (15:33 UTC). They returned to Earth with critical science samples aboard the Polar mobile cold storage locker.

    During their stay on ISS, Crew-10’s astronauts worked on many experiments, including studies on physical and mental change in astronauts during spaceflight and blood flow from the brain to the heart in microgravity. ISS crews stay on the Station for up to six months or so at a time, enabling a large database of how astronauts adapt to spaceflight.

    Takuya Onishi in the Kibo module with the JEM Internal Ball Camera 2. (Credit: NASA)

    Their science program also included studies on future lunar navigation techniques, various plant and seed experiments, investigations into how cells sense gravity, crystallization research, and tests on robots that could free astronauts from performing certain tasks, among other projects.

    Crew-11 also has an extensive science program to look forward to. Highlights of Crew-11’s science program include a study on producing stem cells in microgravity, work on a potential alternative to antibiotics, an experiment to produce nutrients that can remain viable for years in the space environment, and a Japanese plant cell division experiment using tobacco cells and green algae.

    Crew-11’s astronauts also may be tasked with a spacewalk on the U.S. segment that Crew-10 did not do. Crew-10 astronauts McClain and Ayers conducted EVA-93. On May 1, they worked on installing a modification kit for new solar arrays as well as an antenna relocation. The modification kit installation was not completed and was set aside for the next spacewalk, EVA-94.

    Astronaut Anne McClain during EVA-93. (Credit: NASA)

    However, EVA-94 has not yet been conducted, and will be left for a future crew, very possibly for the Crew-11 astronauts. Whenever this spacewalk takes place, the astronauts will be tasked with completing the solar array medication kit installation on the P4 truss at the 2A location, as well as several other tasks.

    Besides the change of command, the crew handover, and the return of Crew-10 to Earth that have already happened, the CRS-33 cargo resupply mission is also scheduled for this month. CRS-33, using Cargo Dragon C211 on its third flight, is currently set to launch on Thursday, Aug. 21, at 3:57 AM EDT (07:57 UTC) from Space Launch Complex-40 at the Cape Canaveral Space Force Station.

    Other cargo missions to the Station are only a little bit further down the line. Progress MS-32 is scheduled to fly from Site 31/6 at Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan on Sept. 11 at 13:49 UTC, while the NG-23 Cygnus cargo mission is set to fly on a Falcon 9 from Florida no earlier than this September. The NG-22 mission was supposed to fly earlier this year but was canceled after the Cygnus spacecraft suffered an accident during transport to Florida.

    Cutaway illustration of the HTV-X. (Credit: JAXA)

    Japan’s HTV-X is scheduled to make its first flight to ISS no earlier than this October. The HTV-X is a follow-on spacecraft to the earlier Kounotori vehicle, which helped supply the Station from 2009 to 2020, and will be able to carry pressurized and unpressurized cargo to ISS like Kounotori did. Like Kounotori, HTV-X is disposed of with a destructive reentry in Earth’s atmosphere.

    HTV-X was designed to reduce mass and costs while increasing the amount of payload it could carry to the Station. The spacecraft will also be able to generate more power than Kounotori and will support late cargo loading. HTV-X will be launched by the H3-24L variant with four strap-on solid rocket boosters, and it will be berthed to the Station using its Canadian-built robotic arm.

    Another new cargo spacecraft, Sierra Space’s DreamChaser Tenacity, was supposed to fly to the Station, but Tenacity is still in work and may not fly this year. When the DreamChaser becomes operational, it will add an intact down mass cargo capability that currently only Cargo Dragon offers.

    Axiom Space’s Payload, Power, and Thermal Module shell at Thales Alenia. (Credit: Axiom Space)

    The current Expedition 73 post Crew-10 complement, with the Crew-11 astronauts, along with Soyuz MS-27’s Ryzhikov, Alexey Zubritsky, and NASA’s Jonny Kim, will be working on their scientific and maintenance tasks while also assisting with cargo loading and unloading from the upcoming visiting vehicles.

    While Expedition 73 continues, decisions are being made on the ground about the coming budget for the Station as well as construction on its possible successors. VAST’s Haven Demo, designed to test key systems aboard its coming space station, is scheduled to fly later this year, while Thales Alenia in Europe has completed the shell of Axiom Space’s first space station module.

    (Lead image: Inside the ISS Cupola. Credit: NASA))

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  • New pesticides provide challenging alternatives to neonicotinoids

    New pesticides provide challenging alternatives to neonicotinoids

    New Cornell research offers alternatives to a class of insecticides that has devastating ecological impacts, especially to pollinators, beneficial insects and aquatic invertebrates. A paper in Crop Protection published online on August 5 examines a number of alternatives to neonicotinoids (neonics) that might work for farmers who grow large-seeded vegetable crops such as snap bean, dry bean and sweet corn.

    “We wanted to find other options for growers to protect their vegetable crops from major pests. The impetus was to identify new products including those in the registration pipeline,” said Brian Nault, corresponding author on the paper and professor and program leader in the Department of Entomology at Cornell AgriTech in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (CALS). “My program has shifted in recent years and has focused on this major issue.”

    Snap bean seedlings, shown here damaged by seedcorn maggot, are among the crops the Cornell researchers used in their study of eco-friendly insecticides.

    The task has not been easy, he added. “Insecticides kill insects, so it’s a tall order to find those that kill the pests but have minimal effects on pollinators and other beneficial insects.”

    The race to find alternatives to neonicotinoids is urgent, Nault said, because the Birds and Bees Protection Act in New York state is phasing out the sale, distribution or purchase of certain neonicotinoid-treated corn, soybean or wheat seeds starting in the next few years. Governor Kathy Hochul signed it into law, the first of its kind in the country, in 2023, saying that it “underscores our commitment to fostering a thriving ecosystem while we prioritize sustainable farming and agricultural practices.”

    Research shows neonics have made U.S. agriculture more harmful to insects, and the Environmental Protection Agency determined that neonics likely jeopardize the continued existence of more than 200 threatened and endangered species.

    The implementation of the new law allows sufficient time for innovative research on alternatives and the development of more cost-effective products that are less harmful to the environment, Nault said.

    The researchers’ comprehensive, multi-state and multi-year study demonstrated that non-neonicotinoid insecticides varied in their ability to protect large-seeded vegetable crops against a common pest called seedcorn maggot, said Leonardo Salgado, first author and Ph.D. candidate in the graduate field of entomology.

    The researchers conducted field studies from 2021 to 2024 across Delaware, Minnesota, New York, Washington and Wisconsin. They compared protection of vegetable crops from seedcorn maggot using standard neonicotinoid seed treatments, thiamethoxam and clothianidin, with non-neonicotinoid alternatives including spinosad, cyantraniliprole, chlorantraniliprole, isocycloseram and tetraniliprole. They also compared the risk of these alternative insecticides to workers, consumers and the environment using the Environmental Impact Quotient (EIQ) developed by Cornell University’s Integrated Pest Management Program.

    “Some of the alternatives we found are safer for bees and pollinators, but not as good at controlling seedcorn maggot,” Salgado said. “The alternatives we are finding may not be a one-solution-fits-all, and we need to supplement these new solutions that we have with other strategies.”

    They found that cyantraniliprole and spinosad seed treatments in snap bean performed as well and occasionally better than the neonicotinoid standard, thiamethoxam. None of the alternative insecticide seed treatments in dry bean provided consistent and reliable protection against seedcorn maggot compared with neonics. But the big triumph was that five alternative seed treatments (chlorantraniliprole, cyantraniliprole, isocycloseram, spinosad and tetraniliprole) proved as effective as standard neonics for sweet corn.

    “Sweet corn is a pretty big crop in New York state,” Nault said. So there is good news about alternatives for sweet corn, less so for dry beans and snap beans, he said. For all of the alternative pesticides, their research shows, supplemental options may be necessary to cover additional pests.

    “For many vegetable crops, farmers could replace the neonic at planting but may need another pesticide later in the season,” Nault said. Other important factors will need to be considered before adopting non-neonicotinoid alternative seed treatments. For example, many are not yet approved for commercial use on these specific crops, and the cost of these newer products will undoubtedly be more expensive than neonicotinoids.

    This multi-state study, led by Cornell researchers and their collaborative team, provides crucial data to support future registrations of these non-neonicotinoid options. Their findings are vital for diversifying the insecticide classes used in these crops, particularly by incorporating active ingredients that function differently, can help delay the development of insecticide resistance and improve the long-term sustainability of pest management programs in large-seeded vegetable crops across North America.

    Funding for the study came from Cornell IPM Program, the New York State Agriculture and Markets, the Washington State Commission on Integrated Pest Management, the Delaware Department of Agriculture Specialty Crop Block Grant and the Midwest Food Products Association.

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  • India’s hold on Pakistan begins to hurt where it matters

    India’s hold on Pakistan begins to hurt where it matters

    India put the Indus Water Treaty (IWT) with Pakistan, signed in 1960, in abeyance following the Pahalgam terrorist attack in April, arguing Pakistan violated the treaty through unrelenting cross-border terrorism. Months after the action, India’s hold on Pakistan has begun to hurt which is evident from incendiary statements by several Pakistani leaders.

    Speaking at a private dinner in Tampa, Florida, where he had gone to attend an American military function, a few days ago, Pakistan’s army chief Asim Munir threatened India that his country would target dams with missiles, as per media reports. Munir told members of the Pakistani diaspora, “We will wait for India to build a dam, and when it does so, phir 10 missile sey faarigh kar dengey [we will destroy it with 10 missiles].”


    “The Indus river is not the Indians’ family property. Humein missilon ki kami nahin hai, al-Hamdulillah [we have no shortage of missiles, Praise be to God],” he said. Munir also threatened India with nuclear strike.
    After Munir’s comments, Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Tuesday warned that any attempt to block water flow into Pakistan would be a violation of the IWT and met with a “decisive response.” Speaking at an event in Islamabad, Sharif declared, “The enemy cannot snatch even a single drop of water from Pakistan. You threatened to stop our water—if you try, Pakistan will teach you a lesson you will never forget.”

    Last month, former Pakistan foreign minister Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, who is the chairman of Pakistan Peoples Party, warned India over its unilateral suspension of the IWT. Speaking during the budget session of the National Assembly, said, “India has two options: share water fairly, or we will take it from all six rivers.”


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    India rejects international court jurisdiction

    Pakistan has welcomed an international court’s ruling interpreting design criteria for new run-of-river hydropower projects on the Western Rivers (Chenab, Jhelum and Indus), to be built by India, saying it vindicates its position on the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT), which India put in abeyance after the Pahalgam attack. India, however, has never recognised the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which reportedly ruled that India must “let flow” the waters of the Western Rivers for Pakistan’s unrestricted use. India has instead focused on the neutral expert mechanism.
    “The specified exceptions for generation of hydro-electric plants must conform strictly to the requirements laid down in the treaty, rather than to what India might consider an ‘ideal’ or ‘best practices’ approach,” Pakistan’s foreign office said Monday.
    Following Monday’s ruling, Pakistan reiterated its commitment to implementing IWT and urged India to resume functioning of the same. India maintains IWT will remain in abeyance until Pakistan takes action against cross-border terrorism.

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    Why are Pak leaders threatening India?

    Possibly, Pakistan has realised India’s suspension of the IWT is not going to be reverted, which poses dire medium- and long-term challenges to the country.

    Under normal IWT operations, India shared vital water-flow data and alerted Pakistan to seasonal variations and flood risks. Now, India has halted such data sharing, severely impairing Pakistan’s ability to anticipate floods or droughts. India no longer needs to follow design and operational restrictions for projects on the western rivers—Indus, Jhelum, and Chenab—meaning it can proceed unilaterally with dam construction and modifications. This includes reservoir flushing to clear sediment at projects like Kishanganga, potentially affecting downstream flow.

    Though short-term capability is limited due to India’s existing infrastructure, long-term construction of dams and reservoirs could significantly alter water availability for Pakistan in dry months.

    Pakistan relies on Indus waters for 80–90% of its irrigated agriculture, which supports roughly 25% of its GDP and up to 37–45% of employment depending on the report.

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    In the long term, India could ramp up dams, storage, and diversion projects along the western rivers, consolidating significant upstream control. Pakistan, with limited storage capacity, may suffer perennial water shortages, especially in non-monsoon seasons. Domestic instability in Pakistan could intensify—impacting food security, rural livelihoods, trade competitiveness, and energy sustainability.

    It’s possible Pakistan has sensed India’s long-term plans to restrict water flow and is alarmed at the prospect.

    An Indian environment ministry panel has given “in-principle” approval for diversion of over 847 hectares of reserved forest and ‘jungle-jhari’ land for construction of the ambitious 1,856-MW Sawalkot hydroelectric project in Ramban district of Jammu & Kashmir, TOI reported last month. Certain key green provisions were set aside for the purpose, keeping in view national interests. Though the final approval will be subject to grant of environment clearance for the project by the UT govt, the move shows the intent to swiftly take up the dam’s construction for leveraging Chenab river’s potential following suspension of the IWT. The Sawalkot hydroelectric project (HEP) is a major hydropower initiative, intended to harness the potential of the Chenab — one of the western rivers along with Indus and Jhelum whose waters currently flow unchecked to Pakistan despite India’s right to use it for non-consumptive purposes, including hydro-power generation.

    India is also set to revive the long-stalled Tulbul Navigation Project in Jammu & Kashmir, PTI has reported recently, based on information from sources. A detailed project report for Tulbul is being prepared and is expected to take about a year to complete. This move, which comes right after the IWT suspension, underscores a significant policy shift: leveraging water resources as a means of strategic assertion. The work was restarted in 2010, with the then irrigation minister of J&K, Taj Mohideen, stating that Article 9 of IWT permitted such projects meant for non-consumptive use. In 2012, unidentified terrorists lobbed a grenade towards a bund raised by the workers for the project.

    Under the IWT, India was allocated the eastern rivers (Ravi, Beas and Sutlej), while the western rivers (Indus, Jhelum and Chenab) were allocated to Pakistan, with limited rights for India. India is allowed to use water from the western rivers for non-consumptive purposes like navigation, power generation and limited storage. The Tulbul Project aligns with these permissible uses. With the IWT in abeyance, there can’t be any challenge to this project.

    After the Uri Terror Attack in 2016, Prime Minister Narendra Modi said “blood and water cannot flow together” during a high-level review meeting of the IWT. This was a clear signal that India might review or alter its commitment to the IWT in response to Pakistan’s failure to curb cross-border terrorism. Nearly a decade later, Modi’s indication has become a reality. India’s revival of plans to build long-term projects on several rivers suggests it is not going to revert its decision. It also drives home the message in Pakistan that the suspension of the IWT was not a merely tactical move but a long-term strategic shift. Also, India’s rejection of international court jurisdiction over IWT underlines this shift. That’s what is bothering Pakistan’s top leaders.

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  • Mortgage rates below 5% for first time since Truss budget

    Mortgage rates below 5% for first time since Truss budget

    Tom Espiner

    BBC business reporter

    Getty Images Homebuyers look at an estate agents window display - stock shotGetty Images

    The average two-year mortgage rate has dipped below 5% for the first time since former Prime Minister Liz Truss’s mini-budget in September 2022, figures show.

    The rate has dropped to 4.99%, according to Moneyfacts, which described it as a “symbolic turning point” for homebuyers and shows lenders are “competing more aggressively”.

    Interest rates have been cut five times since last August but at the Bank of England’s last meeting, a split vote between policymakers raised questions about whether there would be another reduction this year.

    A Moneyfacts spokesperson said that although mortgages are following the “mood music” set by the Bank’s rate cuts, they are unlikely to fall substantially.

    Hundreds of thousands of borrowers are due to re-mortgage this year.

    UK Finance, the banking industry group said 900,000 fixed rate deals are due to expire in the second half of 2025, while the total for the year is 1.6 million.

    Mortgage rates are still “well above the rock-bottom rates of the years immediately preceding” the mini-budget, according to Moneyfacts.

    Unveiled by Truss’s short-lived chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng, the so-called mini-budget set out £45bn in unfunded tax cuts, causing UK market turmoil.

    It pushed up the cost of UK government borrowing, which fed through into mortgage rates. By July 2023, the borrowing cost of mortgages had soared to the highest level since the 2008 financial crisis.

    Interest rates were already rising as central banks around the world, including the Bank of England, tried to deal with inflation which was being made worse by energy price shocks after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

    ‘Ultra-competitive’

    The UK mortgage market is “ultra-competitive” at the moment, with lenders cutting margins “extremely thin”, according to Hina Bhudia, a partner at Knight Frank Finance.

    She said the most competitive rates are about 3.7%.

    While she said the future is “uncertain”, Knight Frank Finance predicts interest rates will “continue to glide down as we move through the autumn”.

    A line chart showing the average interest rate charged on two-year and five-year fixed mortgage deals from 1 January 2022 to 13 August 2025, according to financial data company Moneyfacts. The average rate on a two-year fixed deal on 1 January 2022 was 2.38%. It then rose to 4.74% on 23 September 2022, the day of former Prime Minister Liz Truss’ mini-Budget, after which it increased more steeply to a peak of 6.65% in late October 2022. It fell back to around 5.30% before hitting another peak of 6.85% in early August 2023. It then gradually fell to 4.99% on 13 August 2025. The trend was broadly similar for five-year fixes, climbing from 2.66% on 1 January 2022 to 4.75% on 23 September 2022, and then peaking at 6.51% in late October 2022. It fell back to around 5.00% before hitting another peak of 6.37% in early August 2023. It then gradually fell to 5.00% on 13 August 2025.

    Last week, the Bank of England revealed that inflation is forecast to spike higher than expected this year – at 4% in September – before falling back to its 2% in 2027.

    Moneyfacts said this “is likely to mean the base rate will hold around its current level for longer” which, after the last cut, is 4%.

    Average house prices ticked up by more than £1,000 in July to £298,237, mortgage lender Halifax said last week.

    Although this is close to a record high, Halifax’s head of mortgages, Amanda Bryden, said: “With mortgage rates continuing to ease and wages still rising, the picture on affordability is gradually improving.”

    She added: “Combined with the more flexible affordability assessments now in place, the result is a housing market that continues to show resilience, with activity levels holding up well.

    “We expect house prices to follow a steady path of modest gains through the rest of the year.”

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  • NHS ten-year plan: what role will pharmacies play in neighbourhood health teams?

    NHS ten-year plan: what role will pharmacies play in neighbourhood health teams?

    The government’s ten-year-plan for the future of the NHS in England, subtitled ‘Fit for the future’, has promised three “radical” shifts in how the NHS will work.

    It said new technology will be used to cut administrative work for healthcare staff and give patients greater access to their care data; the health service would work to move the emphasis from sickness to prevention; and there will be a shift of care from hospital to community.

    The latter of these three aims will mean “more care will be available on people’s doorsteps and in their homes”, the plan says.

    As part of this move to bring care closer to patients, the government has promised the creation of neighbourhood health teams. And which type of provider sits in those neighbourhoods? Community pharmacies.

    More than 80% of England’s population live within a 20-minute walk of their nearest community pharmacy, and the government says that pharmacy will have a “vital role” in the new neighbourhood health service.

    Detail on the proposal is scarce and, at this early stage, it is difficult to tell how pharmacists will be integrated with the service, but Janet Morrison, chief executive of Community Pharmacy England, is optimistic about their involvement in both developing the neighbourhood health teams and achieving the government’s aims.

    “Pharmacies adapt well to change — just look at their efforts during the pandemic and in getting Pharmacy First up and running — and many are already taking innovative approaches to healthcare provision,” she says.

    There’s no clear strategy to prevent a drain from community pharmacies into these new centres, which could destabilise existing services

    Jay Badenhorst, director of pharmacy at the Pharmacists’ Defence Association

    “These neighbourhood health services should be harnessing the valuable skills and expertise of community pharmacy professionals, as well as making the most of our sector’s network of accessible locations.” 

    Jay Badenhorst, director of pharmacy at the Pharmacists’ Defence Association, is slightly less positive about the idea. Referring to the reported plan for 250–300 multidisciplinary neighbourhood health centres by 2035, bearing in mind the pharmacy workforce crisis, he asks: “Where will the pharmacists come from?”

    “There’s no clear strategy to prevent a drain from community pharmacies into these new centres, which could destabilise existing services and contribute to workforce pressures.”

    Badenhorst also notes that there is a risk of pharmacists being “subsumed under medical hierarchies” in these centres, limiting their abilities. He says they should be involved in the design of the plan, rather than being left to “pick up the pieces”.

    So what could pharmacy’s involvement in neighbourhood healthcare look like in practice, and what is needed for this planned shift from hospital to the community?

    Clinical services to address the chronic disease burden

    As part of the ten-year plan, the government says that it will transition community pharmacy over the next five years from “being focused largely on dispensing medicines to becoming integral to the neighbourhood health service, offering more clinical services”.

    As pharmacists will increasingly be able to independently prescribe — the first cohort of pharmacy students are due to qualify as independent prescribers in 2026 — the plan highlights that pharmacists will take on an increased role “in the management of long-term conditions, complex medication regimes, and treatment of obesity, high blood pressure and high cholesterol”.

    Danny Bartlett, a primary care pharmacist, says this should have always been the case. “Community pharmacists treating UTIs and coughs and colds — I don’t think that’s the best use of their skills.

    “It’s very transactional, whereas now we’ve got such a big prevention and chronic disease burden. Imagine if … instead of Pharmacy First for UTIs, it was Pharmacy First for blood pressure, diabetes and asthma reviews.”

    In the ten-year plan, the government references Canada’s pharmacy care clinics, which provide services for chronic disease management, as a model England can learn from.

    For example, the clinics provide full diabetes care, from carrying out blood glucose tests and cholesterol checks, to medication reviews and diabetes care consultations.

    Raj Matharu, chief executive of Community Pharmacy South East London, says he thinks the additional offering from pharmacies in England could be diagnostic services.

    “Phlebotomy is one that a number of pharmacies do for private phlebotomy services that could easily be converted, or you could use the flu model,” he says.

    He explains that, when the community pharmacy flu vaccination service was trialled in London in 2015, it was adapted from private providers’ patient group directions (PGDs).

    “We said … ‘why don’t we do a service level agreement that says, if you’ve got a provider PGD, that’s good enough for us — provide it’. That’s gone from strength to strength and now it’s a national service, so that can be replicated.” 

    The community pharmacy flu vaccination service launched in 2015, with pharmacies having administered more than 4 million flu vaccines in the 2024/2025 winter flu season. 

    On 24 July 2025, Community Pharmacy England (CPE) announced that community pharmacies in England will be able to provide flu vaccinations to children aged two to three years from 1 October 2025, as part of a trial commissioned for the 2025/2026 winter season.

    I think community pharmacy will run better if they do less services better, as opposed to more services diluted

    Danny Bartlett, primary care pharmacist

    Alastair Buxton, director of NHS services at CPE, said at the time: “We are confident that pharmacy teams will be able to increase vaccination rates by providing a convenient and accessible service to parents and their eligible children.” 

    Bartlett argues against pharmacies offering more services and says they should instead concentrate on improving what they already do well.

    “I think community pharmacy will run better if they do less services better, as opposed to more services diluted,” he says.

    He argues that rather than offering ad hoc services for acute conditions, such as Pharmacy First or minor ailment services, it would make more sense to channel energy into preventative services for conditions, such as hypertension, “where you’re not waiting for people to come through the door with a UTI or opportunistic referral from the GP surgery that might be inappropriate”. 

    Community pharmacy should be marketed where these needs are, “rather than trying to shoehorn acute need when you’ve got people like paramedics and advanced clinical practitioners that can help with that acute burden”, he adds. 

    “It’s the chronic burden that we need so much more help with.”

    However, Bartlett acknowledges that pharmacies may be providing lots of services, “because the funding is not there”.

    Funding reforms needed

    It is evident that if pharmacies are to transition towards more preventative work, there must be improved funding.

    “The vast amount of our income is from dispensing and if they want us to shift to clinical services, I need to see that bridge from supply to clinical and that support they provide us. I don’t see any meaningful frameworks coming forward with transitional funds to help us to do that,” Matharu says.

    He points out that only 43% of pharmacies in South East London are meeting the Pharmacy First targets for payment for each of the seven clinical conditions. “That’s a lot of money that we’re losing.”

    In April 2025, an estimated 182 pharmacies in the region fell short of the threshold, equating to £182,000 in missed payments.

    “I would love to drop the way that we have to always get referrals from other providers into community pharmacy, because that simply just doesn’t work. The fact that we’ve got a universal target of 20 or 30 Pharmacy First consultations, irrespective of how many prescriptions you do or where you’re based — I’d like to drop that if I could,” he says.

    There is no mention of pharmacy funding in the ten-year plan, just as there was no mention of it in the government’s spending review for 2025. However, a spokesperson from the Department of Health and Social Care told The Pharmaceutical Journal in June 2025 that pharmacies remain a “priority” as it rebuilds the health service.

    In response to the spending review, a joint statement published on 16 June 2025 by several primary care bodies, including CPE, said there was “little capacity to deliver the reforms needed, and improve the care people receive closer to home, without further investment in primary care”.

    Speaking in Parliament on 17 June 2025, health minister Stephen Kinnock told MPs he was “working on” reforms to Pharmacy First to “get the allocation of funding right” for the service.

    How do I make sure that there are sufficient community pharmacists in leadership positions at all levels?

    Raj Matharu, chief executive of Community Pharmacy South East London

    Bartlett says funding for the neighbourhood health service should be based on performance and priorities. He gives an example of a neighbourhood team that sees a lot of patients with frailty. “Their key performance indicators should be: we want to deprescribe medication; we want to prevent the amount of falls or reduce them; and we want to reduce the amount of hospital admissions. 

    “I think the funding model has to fit with what [neighbourhood teams are] wanting to achieve, but also make sure they achieve it,” he adds.

    Pharmacy leadership

    Matharu points out the need for funding for pharmacy leadership in the neighbourhood health service. “How do I make sure that there are sufficient community pharmacists in leadership positions at all levels? That’s the challenge for me, and I haven’t seen that addressed anywhere within the NHS ten-year plan.” 

    He says neighbourhood leadership has already been attempted with South East London Integrated Care System’s (ICS’s) community pharmacy neighbourhood leads programme.

    Developed in 2023, the programme supports community pharmacists to become neighbourhood leads for their respective localities. It followed a pilot in Lambeth, south London, which led to a 300% increase in referral activity for the community pharmacy consultation service, which pre-dated Pharmacy First, and which the ICS says freed up appointments at GP surgeries — something that aligns with the ten-year plan.

    Matharu says that Community Pharmacy South East London plans to recruit local pharmaceutical committee (LPC) staff to become the community pharmacy neighbourhood leads. 

    “We’ll start off with a small number and see how that develops as they make those interventions at a neighbourhood level,” he adds.

    Bartlett says it’s “essential” that pharmacists practising at an advanced level step into neighbourhood leadership roles.

    “My ultimate dream is that there would be a consultant pharmacist post that sits maybe in each integrated neighbourhood team (INT) or maybe across a couple of INTS, because then they’re going to be that fountain of all knowledge in primary care that can help disseminate the services and also help lift up those other junior pharmacists as well.”

    Matharu also notes that pharmacy leadership will encourage relationships between different care sectors. “Let’s get some community pharmacies in these positions of leadership and I can start developing those relationships, breaking down some of the barriers, because that’s when they will start to build trust and confidence with secondary care and general practice. 

    “Once that happens, hopefully it would be an era of collaboration.”

    Developing the plan

    Morrison says that CPE is “keen to work closely with the Department [of Health and Social Care] to ensure that community pharmacies are enabled and have the capacity to fully contribute to neighbourhood health services as they develop”. 

    “We are supporting LPCs to work with the NHS and local authorities, making sure they are aware of the value of pharmacy teams whilst also being mindful of the need for investment. With the right support, pharmacies can develop new ways of working across primary care and provide an even wider range of clinical services that benefit patients, communities and the NHS,” she adds.

    There is huge potential for pharmacists to be an integral part of the neighbourhood health service; however, as Morrison’s comments highlight, clarity is needed on how their involvement will be funded, as well as the need for pharmacists to feel empowered to take on leadership roles to help shape the service. 

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  • Stocks give up early gains, succumb to profit-booking

    Stocks give up early gains, succumb to profit-booking


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    The Pakistan Stock Exchange (PSX), after kicking off the new trading session on an upbeat note on Wednesday, gave up early optimism over profit-booking pressure. By the close of trading, the benchmark KSE-100 index recorded a loss of 476 points, or 0.32%, at 146,529.

    In the morning, stocks showed impressive movement, which took the index to intra-day high of 147,892. However, at midday the market began to lose steam as traders grew increasingly risk averse. It resulted in a steady pullback, pushing the index to the day’s low at 146,418. The downturn was largely attributed to profit-booking.

    Arif Habib Limited (AHL) Head of Research Sana Tawfik told The Express Tribune that the stock market started off on a positive note but lost early momentum due to profit-taking and closed lower. “As expected, it is a consolidation phase at current levels following a streak of record-breaking rallies,” she said.

    “However, the sentiment is expected to turn positive in the backdrop of several factors such as Moody’s credit rating upgrade for Pakistan to Caa1 from Caa2 and robust financial results. Profit-taking is also expected to continue simultaneously,” she added. KTrade Securities, in its market wrap, noted that the KSE-100 index remained range bound as investors continued to take profit.

    The index lost 476 points and closed at 146,529 after hitting intra-day high of 147,892 and low of 146,418. Cement stocks performed positively while fertiliser and oil and gas sectors lost ground, it said.
    Key gainers included Lucky Cement, Habib Bank, Meezan Bank and National Bank. On the flip side, Fauji Fertiliser, Engro Fertilisers, Pakistan Petroleum and MCB Bank pulled the index down.

    The uptrend may continue, however, some consolidation is likely as the index hovers around record highs, KTrade concluded. Overall trading volumes decreased to 647.1 million shares compared with Tuesday’s tally of 691.7 million. Traded value stood at Rs40.9 billion.

    Shares of 487 companies were traded. Of these, 199 stocks closed higher, 240 dropped and 48 remained unchanged. Yousuf Weaving was the volume leader with trading in 51.8 million shares, gaining five paisa to close at Rs6.14.

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  • Boks expecting physical encounter against Australia

    Boks expecting physical encounter against Australia

    Nche spoke highly of the way the Wallabies raised their standard of play in their last two matches against the British & Irish Lions and said it would be a tight tussle between the teams.

    “We saw in their last two Tests against the British & Irish Lions how they started to gel and improve, while they are also developing good combinations with players who have been playing together for a while, so they’ll definitely be up for the game,” said Nche, who will run out for his 42nd cap in Johannesburg.

    “Their set pieces have also improved, and they have a solid pack, so we are expecting them to challenge us in the scrums and lineouts. We have no doubt they’ll be fired up and keen to try to make their presence felt in the areas of the game they are strong at.”

    Fassi echoed these sentiments and said the Boks have been preparing well for Saturday’s Test: “We know it’s going to be a physical game, and with the backs they have, we are also expecting an expansive game. That said, just as they have their plans, we have ours, and we know what we have to do no matter what they throw at us because it’s important for us to play our brand of rugby.”

    The exciting fullback was revealed as one of the goal-kicking options this week by Springbok coach Rassie Erasmus, and Fassi said he embraced the challenge.

    “I’ve been practicing my kicking a lot, even before I joined the Boks this season, and I’m confident with the way things are going,” said Fassi, who has scored seven tries in his 12 Tests to date, including a belter last year against the Wallabies in Perth.

    “So, when coach Rassie told me that I’ll also be a kicking option, it was a matter of putting my head down and continuing to put in the work.”

    With speculation rife over the last day that the Wallabies may pick James O’Connor at flyhalf for the clash, Fassi said it would not make a difference who they selected as the Boks were focused on their own game.

    “It won’t change the way we want to play if they select him because we know what we want to do on the field,” said Fassi. “He’s a good player with a good skillset, and he’s played against us before, so for us it is all about doing things the Springbok way.”

    When quizzed about the challenge of defending the Castle Lager Rugby Championship title, Nche said: “We are a year older as some say, but so are the other teams, and they’ve gained that experience as well.

    “If one looks at how the opposition teams have performed this year, both Argentina and Australia beat the British & Irish Lions, so it will be a challenging competition for all the teams.

    “But in terms of trying to defend our title, we are certainly going to do everything we can to achieve that.”

    Nche also had words of advice for the Springbok Women who will represent the country in the Women’s Rugby World Cup in England and said: “We wish them all the best, and we hope they go out there and give their all, while at the same time making memories and doing it for the country.”

    The match kicks off at 17h10 and will be broadcast live on SuperSport. Tickets are available from Ticketmaster.

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  • Is AI going to steal your job? Not if you work in cleaning, construction or hospitality, Australian report finds | Australian economy

    Is AI going to steal your job? Not if you work in cleaning, construction or hospitality, Australian report finds | Australian economy

    Want an AI-proof job?

    Rethink your plans to pursue a career in book keeping, marketing or programming and consider instead a job in nursing, construction or hospitality.

    In a major new report, Jobs and Skills Australia modelled the potential impact of artificial intelligence on the workforce, and found reasons to be optimistic about the future for workers in a world transformed by AI.

    The JSA’s commissioner, Barney Glover, said the doomsday predictions about the end of work as we know it are overblown. Still, the impact will be huge.

    “The overarching message is that almost all occupations will be augmented by AI. It doesn’t make a difference which sector you are in, or at what skill level: you will be influenced by AI,” Glover said.

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    In the most comprehensive research of its kind in Australia, the JSA assessed occupations according to what degree the tasks could be automated or augmented by artificial intelligence.

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    “Many clerical tasks – that were not affected by previous waves of automation – could now be undertaken in large part by Gen AI,” the report found.

    It then modelled future employment growth across occupations out to the middle of the century, and compared those forecasts to a world with no AI.

    The report found office clerks, receptionists, bookkeepers, sales, marketing and public relations professionals, business and systems analysts and programmers would lose the most employment by 2050.

    In contrast, the occupations where employment would gain the most were cleaners and laundry workers, public administration and safety, business administration managers, construction and mining labourers, and hospitality workers.

    But a key finding of the report was that AI was much more likely to change, rather than replace, work.

    “Nearly half of all workers are currently in occupations with low automation and medium augmentation scores, suggesting the occupation would more likely experience change rather than disruption,” the report said.

    More jobs, just different ones

    JSA modelled employment growth in three scenarios where AI is adopted and embedded at different rates between now and 2050.

    It found that AI would lead to slower employment growth through the 2030s, but faster growth through the next decade. In all three scenarios, there were more Australian jobs by 2050 in a world with AI, than without.

    The analysis “suggests we may not see the most significant employment effects for a decade, which could accord with the time taken for deeper adoption and related structural changes,” the report said.

    While the adoption of AI remains in its very early stages, some jobs have already been devastated by the introduction of the economy.

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    The JSA said it had heard about the “significant” drop in work for voice actors thanks to GenAI, with one talent agency telling the commission that demand for narration for content videos had collapsed by 80%.

    There are reports that employers are rolling out AI to complete the low level tasks that once would have been the domain of university graduates, although there is not yet widespread evidence of the phenomenon.

    Big businesses are embracing AI, with an impact on workers.

    CBA recently axed dozens of call centre jobs, replacing them with chatbots.

    In May, Telstra’s chief executive officer, Vicki Brady, said “AI efficiencies” would allow it to shrink its workforce by 2030, although the telco giant denied that last month’s announcement of 550 job cuts was the result of the technology.

    No time to waste

    Given the rapid evolution of AI, Glover said there was a “sense of urgency” when it came to taking steps now to give Australians of all ages the tools and skills they needed to thrive in an AI-augmented workplace.

    He said it would require a “national leadership framework”, led by the commonwealth and including all levels of government.

    “Let’s make sure the education and training sector is geared up for this and ready. AI is a foundational skill now – everyone is going to be some form of ‘prompt engineer’.

    “We want to future proof our young people, so let’s give them the skills they need.

    “We need the cognitive and critical thinking skills. That’s why it’s critical to support the humanities and social sciences, which have developed these critical thinking skills over centuries.”

    Glover agreed with the ACTU that there was a “strong argument” that employers should work with their staff in “co-designing” the implementation of AI in the workplace.

    “The very best way to get the very best outcome for workers and employers is to bring workers in. This has got to be a positive way of moving forward.

    “We don’t touch on it in our report, but these are things the economic roundtable [next week] can debate and I hope they do.”

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  • Hubble uncovers rare white dwarf merger remnant

    Hubble uncovers rare white dwarf merger remnant

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    13 August 2025

    An international team of astronomers using the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope have discovered a stellar rarity: an ultra-massive white dwarf that formed when a white dwarf merged with another star, rather than through the evolution of a single star. This discovery, which was made possible by Hubble’s sensitive ultraviolet observations, suggests that these rare white dwarfs may be more common than previously suspected.

    A white dwarf is the end state for a star that is not massive enough to explode as a core-collapse supernova. The transition to a white dwarf begins when a star exhausts the supply of hydrogen in its core. The changes in and around the star’s core cause the star to expel its outer layers in a massive stellar sigh, revealing the star’s dense, Earth-sized core, which evolves into a white dwarf. The cores of white dwarfs are mostly composed of either carbon and oxygen or oxygen and neon, depending on the mass of the progenitor star. The Sun will become a white dwarf in about 5 billion years.

    White dwarfs can theoretically have masses up to about 1.4 times the mass of the Sun, but white dwarfs that are more massive than the Sun are rare. These objects, which astronomers call ultra-massive white dwarfs, can form either through the evolution of a single massive star or through the merger of a white dwarf with another star.

    Recently, astronomers used Hubble’s Cosmic Origins Spectrograph to investigate one such ultra-massive white dwarf, WD 0525+526. WD 0525+526 is just 128 light-years away and is 20% more massive than the Sun. 

    In visible light, the spectrum of WD 0525+526’s atmosphere resembled that of a typical white dwarf. However, Hubble’s ultraviolet spectrum revealed something unusual: evidence of carbon in the white dwarf’s atmosphere. 

    White dwarfs that form through the evolution of a single star have atmospheres composed of hydrogen and helium. These thick atmospheres blanket the carbon–oxygen or oxygen–neon surface of the white dwarf, usually preventing these elements from appearing in its spectrum.

    When carbon appears in the spectrum of a white dwarf, it can signal a more violent origin than the typical single-star scenario: the collision of two white dwarfs, or of a white dwarf and a subgiant star. Such a collision can burn away the hydrogen and helium atmospheres of the colliding stars, leaving behind a scant layer of hydrogen and helium around the merger remnant that allows carbon from the white dwarf’s core to float upward, where it can be detected.

    “It’s a discovery that underlines that things may be different from what they appear to us at first glance,” said the principal investigator of the Hubble programme, Boris Gaensicke, of the University of Warwick in the United Kingdom. “Until now, this appeared as a normal white dwarf, but Hubble’s ultraviolet eyes revealed that it had a very different history from what we would have guessed. It’s like asking a person you think you know well a different kind of question.”

    This discovery marks the first time that a white dwarf born from colliding stars has been identified by its ultraviolet spectrum. Prior to this study, six white dwarf merger products were discovered via carbon lines in their visible-light spectra. All seven of these are part of a larger group that were found to be bluer than expected for their masses and ages from a study with ESA’s Gaia mission in 2019, with the evidence of mergers providing new insights into their formation history.

    WD 0525+526 is remarkable even within the small group of white dwarfs known to be the product of merging stars. With a temperature of almost 21 000 kelvins and a mass of 1.2 solar masses, WD 0525+526 is hotter and more massive than the other white dwarfs in this group.

    WD 0525+526’s extreme temperature posed something of a mystery for the team. For cooler white dwarfs, such as the six previously discovered merger products, a process called convection can mix carbon into the thin hydrogen–helium atmosphere. WD 0525+526 is too hot for convection to take place, however. Instead, the team determined that a more subtle process called semi-convection brings a small amount of carbon up into WD 0525+526’s atmosphere. WD 0525+526 has the smallest amount of atmospheric carbon of any white dwarf known to result from a merger, about 100 000 times less than other merger remnants.

    The high temperature and low carbon abundance mean that identifying this white dwarf as the product of a merger would have been impossible without Hubble’s sensitivity to ultraviolet light; spectral lines from elements heavier than helium, like carbon, become fainter at visible wavelengths for hotter white dwarfs, but these spectral signals remain bright in the ultraviolet, where Hubble is uniquely positioned to spot them.

    “Hubble’s Cosmic Origins Spectrograph is the only instrument that can obtain the superb quality ultraviolet spectroscopy that was required to detect the carbon in the atmosphere of this white dwarf,” said study lead Snehalata Sahu from the University of Warwick.

    Because WD 0525+526’s unusual origin was revealed only once astronomers glimpsed its ultraviolet spectrum, it’s likely that other seemingly ‘normal’ white dwarfs are actually the result of cosmic collisions — a possibility that the team is excited to explore in the future.

    “We would like to extend our research on this topic by exploring how common carbon white dwarfs are, and how many stellar mergers are hiding among the normal white dwarf family,” said study co-lead Antoine Bedrad from the University of Warwick. “That will be an important contribution to our understanding of white dwarf binaries, and the pathways to supernova explosions.”

    The team’s paper has been published in Nature Astronomy.

    More information

    The Hubble Space Telescope is a project of international cooperation between ESA and NASA.

    Image Credit: NASA, ESA, R. Crawford (STScI)

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    Snehalata Sahu
    University of Warwick

    Bethany Downer
    ESA/Hubble Chief Science Communications Officer
    Email: [email protected]

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  • New Album, Talking Heads, Olivia Rodrigo, Tour

    New Album, Talking Heads, Olivia Rodrigo, Tour


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    avid Byrne strolls into his downtown Manhattan office around noon and promptly removes all of his footwear. He’s been in this prewar building only for a few months, but it’s already unmistakably his own, looking as much like a work space as it does like a museum of the unusual items he’s collected throughout his decades as one of pop’s most curious minds. Meticulously organized metal shelving lines one long wall full of music books, art books, history books, and enough DVDs to put the Criterion Closet to shame. An Oscar, a Grammy, and an MTV Video Music Award are positioned unobtrusively among kitschy treasures like an ancient can of macadamia nuts with Spam and a cassette of a speech by Bob Dole. “It took a while before everything was up and on the bookshelves,” he says. “But once that happened, it was like, ‘OK, we’re home again.’”

    Not long after we finish talking, Byrne will head into rehearsals for a 50-date North American tour in support of his excellent new album, Who Is the Sky? (out Sept. 5 on Matador Records). At 73 years old, he’s as full of restless energy as ever, eager to talk about the creative process behind this album, which he made with Top 40 producer Kid Harpoon, or about his recent onstage collaborations with stars like Olivia Rodrigo.

    He’s also well aware that much of the world would rather see him perform with Talking Heads, the peerlessly inventive rock group he led with bass player Tina Weymouth, drummer Chris Frantz, and multi-instrumentalist Jerry Harrison before splitting under less-than-friendly circumstances in 1991. Byrne has built an impressively flexible solo career since then, making catchy and fascinating records with a widely varied cast of collaborators and selling out hundreds of nights on Broadway with his 2019 American Utopia show. But none of those triumphs got the public more excited than the promotional appearances he made last year with Weymouth, Frantz, and Harrison for an A24 rerelease of Stop Making Sense, the 1984 concert film that is in many ways Talking Heads’ magnum opus.

    Anyone who’s hoping to see Byrne reunite with Talking Heads is out of luck. At least they can look forward to seeing brilliantly reworked versions of some of their favorite songs in Byrne’s current stage show. “I can mix and match and have it adapt to the sound that I’m doing at the moment without completely destroying the integrity of the older songs,” he says. “But I’m also aware that there’s a real trap. If you do too much of the older material, you become a legacy act that comes out and plays the old hits. You cash in really quick, but then you’ve dug yourself a hole.” 

    The title of your new album originated in a misheard phrase, right?
    Yes. Somebody was sending me a text using voice-to-text, and the algorithm got it a little bit wrong. And what came up on my phone was “Who is the sky?” And I thought, “That’s a beautiful phrase.” I know what they were really saying — it’s pretty easy to tell, in English anyway. But I thought, “I’m going to put that on the list of album titles.” And I realized that it fit in other ways. There’s a lot of songs where I’m asking, “Who am I? Who is this? What is that about? Why do we do this?” I also had this thought that the image on the record cover would be me partly hidden. So: “Who is this guy?”

    That’s an interesting question to ask about yourself this far into your career. It’s not a debut album.
    You’d think at my age I would know who I am. But no, we’re always still figuring it out. Figuring out who we are and where we belong and how we feel about things. We’ll never really know all the answers.

    You have a great song on this album called “My Apartment Is My Friend.” Were you thinking of a particular apartment? 
    I was thinking of my apartment, where I live now. During Covid, I tried to write songs and wasn’t really able to write much. I wrote words for a song called “Six Feet Apart” or “Six Feet Away,” about seeing someone, but you can’t get any closer than six feet because of social distancing, and you couldn’t see this person’s face because of the mask, that kind of thing. I sent the words to John Mulaney and said, “What do you think?” There was a line about “She had Purell in her purse” — he liked that. But I never used it. I thought, “What’s happening, it’s serious. This is not a joke. There’s ambulances parked outside my building, the sirens are going day and night.” But after it all passed, I came up with these words for “My Apartment Is My Friend.”

    The pandemic was a harrowing time here in New York, but you got a song that feels positive and uplifting out of that. 
    Yeah. This is how I felt. My apartment is cradling me. I know I’m the only one there. No one else is visiting. I’m going to watch an old movie on streaming at night and I’m going to cook something that I haven’t tried to cook before. And I don’t know how messy it looked. There’d be a big temptation to just be like, “Well, it’s my mess.”

    How long have you lived in that apartment?
    Not that long, relatively speaking. Maybe 15 years now. It might seem fairly long, but I’ve lived in New York for a long time. 

    Do you remember what your first apartment in New York was like, when you moved here in 1974?
    Well, when I first moved here, I slept on the floor of an artist’s loft. He had just gotten it, and the deal was room and board for helping him fix it up — sand the floors and paint and build a loft bed for him and all that kind of stuff. That was an entry. And then eventually I moved into a loft nearby with two of the Talking Heads. Cold-water loft, no hot water, and no toilet. It was all right. Didn’t have all the conveniences that one might like, and I wrote a song about that called “Don’t Worry About the Government.” 

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    New York in the 1970s is often romanticized. Do you think people get that time period right?
    Yeah, people romanticize the grit and the dirt. On some level it was good, because the city was on its knees, so it was ignoring a lot of stuff. There were jazz clubs and discos in lofts in SoHo and other places. And the city just turned a blind eye to all this stuff. These places were far from legal, and musicians would live in these lofts and pay very low rent. It’s shocking how low the rent was, but that’s how funky the neighborhood was. And that allowed all of us to get a foothold. I had a part-time day job, but that was enough for me to contribute rent with the band roommates. So you could make your way. God forbid my parents would’ve visited. 

    What was your dream when you were living in that cold-water loft?
    When I moved here, my ambition was to be what we called a fine artist, an artist who would show in galleries and things like that. But the kind of art I was doing, phew, I wasn’t getting anywhere with it. I did these questionnaires and surveys. Some of the things were very conceptual. I think there was a single line on a big piece of paper, but it was in the exact shape of the New Jersey Turnpike. You can imagine, a little bit of an uphill climb to get that to go, but I was really enjoying doing that. The music stuff, I thought, “This is fun, but don’t get your hopes up. There are really great musicians out there, great singers. There’s people who are a lot better than you are.”

    You’re at a point now where you can make a record and you know it will be rapturously received. Has it always felt like people understood what you were doing?
    Oh, no. There was a period, it might’ve been in the early Nineties. I worked with Latin musicians, did a couple of records with those musicians and toured. Had a great time. It was pretty well-received in Latin America, which was a relief. But in the United States … As one of the executives at Warner Records said, “David, you are your own Yoko Ono.” Which is unfair to Yoko, but I knew what he meant. 

    If you wanted to be a conceptual artist, maybe being your own Yoko Ono wasn’t so bad.
    Exactly [laughs]. But he meant more like, “You have purposely alienated your audience.”

    When did that start changing?
    Probably about 10 years ago, something like that. Suddenly a younger generation started to be interested in the new things I was doing. It wasn’t just the people who grew up listening to Talking Heads. There was a whole other group that was listening. That changed things.

    “You’d think at my age I’d know who I am. But we’ll never know.”

    Lots of younger artists cite you as an influence today, from Lorde to Hayley Williams. They really look up to you. Are you comfortable being an object of hero worship?
    I don’t like to think of myself that way, but if people like what I do, I’m not going to argue with that. I’m not going to have some psychological issue with it. But for the most part, I’m excited about what I’m doing at the moment, whether it’s a record or a tour or something else. And maybe that’s a big reason why some of these people like what I do. They see that I’ve gotten myself into a place where I have a certain amount of freedom to try things out and do different things, which is rare in the music world.

    Your performance of “Burning Down the House” with Olivia Rodrigo was one of the coolest moments at Governors Ball this year. How did that come together?
    I saw her show at Madison Square Garden months before. She’s a great performer, and she was having a really good time, you could tell. I got introduced to her afterwards, and she seemed like a real person — someone who, growing up in the world that she did, survived it really well. So then, out of nowhere, comes this invitation: “Hey, would you like to join me at Governors Ball?” My reaction was, “Yeah. And shall we figure out some choreography together?”

    Which you did. You and she really had the moves down.
    Yeah, yeah. We worked it out in a couple of days.

    Did you ever get to work with an older artist you looked up to when you were younger?
    Oh, yeah. When we were starting out, we were big fans of the Velvet Underground. John Cale and Lou Reed came to see us at CBGB. We met with Lou Reed a couple of times. He wanted to sign us to a management-production deal. But it was a little bit too much like, “Oh, I don’t know if we’re ready for this.” We pulled back. John introduced us to Brian Eno on our first trip to London, and that proved to be a big deal for us. All these people that we were in awe of.

    What was Lou like?
    We were playing through some of our songs, just strumming a guitar. And I remember he was showing us how if you slowed some of them down a little bit, that might not be the worst thing in the world, rather than trying to blurt out all the words really quickly. So, yeah, he had some good ideas. I remember when we met, he was eating an incredible amount of ice cream. I think he went through two of those quart containers of Häagen-Dazs ice cream in one sitting. We were like, “Whoa.”

    You have a song on this album called “I Met the Buddha at a Downtown Party,” which is another great title.
    There were a few songs where it maybe had the first couple of lines, or maybe just the title. “I met the Buddha at a downtown party.” And I go, “OK, that’s like a short story. What happens next? What did he look like? What’d he say?” And so it starts to write itself. You just let it go and try and keep it interesting.

    I have other ones that I never managed to turn into songs. There was one called “The 50-Foot Baby,” and the baby was wreaking havoc everywhere, just smashing things and picking up cars and tossing them around. Like Godzilla, but a baby. But I didn’t know exactly where to take it.

    “If you do too much of the older material, you become a legacy act.”

    Maybe for the next album.
    Yeah. I’d never done that before, I don’t think. So that was new, writing these little stories.

    You talk about writing these songs as a process of asking questions. Did you reach any conclusions?
    I can’t think of any. The more I do this, the more questions there are. You go, “I thought I was going to get an answer.” And the door opens, or the curtain parts, and you go, “Oh, my God, it’s just a whole bunch more questions.” A whole bunch of more things that you don’t understand. And you wonder, am I ever going to get any of this figured out? Maybe not.

    You’ve talked in the past about feeling different from other people, being neurodivergent or on a spectrum. Where’s your thinking on that now?
    I think very, very little of that remains in me. But yes, at a certain age, I felt very socially awkward, uncomfortable. I was and still am able to focus on a song or drawing and just shut out everything else. I enjoy being with my friends, but there’s times when I’m alone and I’m OK with that, too. So, yeah, there’s elements that persist, and I’m OK with it, but it’s a lot less than it used to be. And some of that I think is just age. You change over years. Some of it I think is due to what music can do to you, whether it’s somebody else’s music or your own. Some of it’s working with other musicians and band members. That becomes this very healing social situation. And part of it is the joy of making music. That’s this big thing that pulls me out of it.

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    You made this new album with the producer Kid Harpoon, who’s known for making pop records with people like Harry Styles and Miley Cyrus. What made you want to work with someone like that?
    I liked the sound of those records that he made. I know that the subjects I choose, the kind of songs I write, are not the same as a lot of those records. But at the same time, I feel that they’re still pop records. They adhere to a pop-music structure and sound, and they have choruses that you can sing along with. So why not? 

    When you perform live, you’ve always got lots of musicians around you. That’s very different to how some pop stars perform now, with just a DJ or a small backing band.
    Yeah, yeah. I saw Charli XCX, and it was just her onstage, no band, no dancers, nothing else. I thought, “Whoa, this is really brave.” Part of me was also going, “Wow, this is really economical, too.” But I don’t know if I’m ready to do that.

    When Stop Making Sense was rereleased in September 2023, how did it feel for you to see your younger self onscreen?
    When A24 was preparing to rerelease Stop Making Sense, I remember going to a screening to see the new print. I hadn’t seen it in years. I’m watching, thinking, “Who is that guy?” Sounds like the new record. But I’m looking and going, “He’s really serious. I feel like telling him to loosen up a little bit: ‘Take it easy, take it easy. It’s going to be OK.’” And by the end of the movie, he kind of does.

    “At a certain age, I felt very awkward. The joy of music pulls me out of it.”

    When you were promoting that rerelease, you spent more time with your old bandmates in Talking Heads than you had in a very long time.
    That’s true, yeah.

    What was that like for you, to be back with that group of people all those years later?
    It was OK. We were all very proud of that show and the film that Jonathan Demme did. We’re thrilled that audiences still wanted to see it. So we put aside whatever differences we have. I said, “OK, we’re not going to go there, but we’re going to help promote this thing.”

    Your bandmates said some unflattering things about you in the press before that. Tina did an interview in 2022 where she called you a bully and compared you to Trump. How did you get over that?
    Mercifully, I didn’t read a lot of that stuff. I’d hear about it a little bit, like you just told me. I also know that there were periods when we made Stop Making Sense where I had this vision of what this show could be. And I probably wasn’t the easiest person in the world to work with, because I was very single-minded about “No, the lighting should be like this. And the crew has to rehearse wheeling those risers out so that they’re as much a part of the show as the band is.” It all worked, but I was not the easiest person to work with in those days. Now I know how to collaborate a little bit better. There’s a way to do it where it doesn’t hurt feelings.

    In all that time you spent promoting the rerelease, were the four of you able to get back to some of the friendship that you had in the earliest days?
    Did we feel more comfortable with one another? Yeah. We felt more comfortable with one another, but I’m just going to anticipate your next questions. I didn’t feel like, “Oh, yeah, let’s go out on tour again.” Or, “Let’s make another record.” Musically, I’ve gone to a very different place. And I also felt like there’s been a fair number of reunion records and tours. And some of them were probably pretty good. Not very many. It’s pretty much impossible to recapture where you were at that time in your life. For an audience … that was formative music for them at a particular time. They might persuade themselves that they can relive that, but you can’t.

    Do you understand why people want a Talking Heads reunion?
    I totally understand it. I’m a music fan like other people. And there’s artists that stopped working, or bands that broke up, that I heard at a period in my life where music was very important. Maybe I never heard it when it was happening, I missed it. I would love to see it live now. But you realize you can’t turn the clock back. When you hear music at a certain point in your life, it means a lot. But it doesn’t mean you can go back there and make it happen again.

    You’re at a point in your career where some people might start thinking about a farewell tour or retirement. Is that something you think about?
    No, I haven’t thought about it. I’ve thought about other things. Fred Armisen convinced me to try doing some stand-up, which I did unacknowledged, and it kind of worked. That is one of the scariest ever, because you’re just alone with words for the most part. I don’t know if I’m ready to go there, but you never know.

    You actually went to a comedy club and did a stand-up set?
    Yes, I did. It’s a thing that he organizes where he has guests but they’re not announced. And as with comedy clubs, nobody’s allowed to use their phones or anything like that.

    So you can’t find it on YouTube?
    Nope. 

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